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Ja som do cukru naskocil az dnes (papierovo) presvedcil ma vcerajsi signal na CCI ked krivka prerazila hladinu 100, tu som sa inspiroval updatom triple screenu od p. Libica, ktory ho genialne vysvetlil v diskusii - sekcia Futures, uvidim co z toho bude, drzim place vsetkym cukrovym spekulnatom (tu)

Re: travič, dalsi rast by som vcelku uvital, ja som v cukre LONG od piatku (papierovo) ale obavam sa, ze ked to takto pojde dalej tak vyjdem na SL 11,18. Na orientaciu by mohlo posluzit aj info o preskupovani pozicii fondov, bude to v analyze na www.nybot.com - CPM Soft Commodities News by Jeffrey Christian

Možno nie som v spavnom vlakne, ale pouzivate niekto ako jeden z indikatorov volume, resp, OI ? Ak ano, kde beriete aktualne udaje? Kdesi na diskusii som pred casom nasiel odpoved na podobnu otazku a ta znela, ze tieto udaje su na stranke burzy, ak som ale dobre pozeral napr. cukor alebo ornage juice tak su udaje o den pozadu, t. j. napr. dnes tam uvadzaju udaj z 30.9., alebo zle hladam, resp. treba sa niekde zaregistrovat alebo platit za udaje?

Diky za rychlu odpoved, zacnem teda v robote tajne sledovat aj orange dzus :) Inak uplne suhlasim, to co pani Petr a Tomáš sustredili na tomto webe ich muselo samotnych stat hrozne casu a myslim, ze aj penazi, ze to tu ponukaju zadarmo je pocin, o ktorom so este nepocul, a som tomu nesmierne rad, hlavne preto, ze som na stranky narazil prave teraz ked vazne uvazujem, ze sucasna praca ma uz prilis netesi, neviem ci sa niekedy prepracujem k tradingu do takje miery aby som ho mohol oznacit za moju pracu ale rozhodne to vyskusam a minimalne je to skvely konicek (tu)

Mjagelo, orange juice vyzera fakt zaujimavo, mate skusenosti s tymto trhom, „podoba sa“ trochu cukru? Vsimol som si, ze ani margin nepatri k najvyssim a asi by som aj preto o nom niekedy neskor uvazoval, alebo zaciatocnikovi neodporucate?

Zdravim Greenhorn, co sa toho cukru tyka, v piatok rano (Reuters 6:45) sa k Braziili pridali este znicene plantaze v Luisiane. Ta je druhym najvacsim dodavatelom v USA a voda po Rite podla prvych odhadov zaplavila a znicila asi 75 percent urody. K tomu sa este pridavaju vyhliadky nizsieho exportu Thajska. Thajsko je najvacsim azijskym exporterom cukru. Podla posledneho reportu na stranke NYBOT su komoditne fondy silne LONG a mozno vedia co robia, ked som pozoroval ich zmeny medzi LONG a SHORT poziciami aj za roky dozadu naozaj isiel trh casto ich smerom, niekedy boli zasa aj fondy trocha nerozhodne, takze som zvedavy co bude, ja v kazdom pripade od piatku v buy pozicii, ale som len papierovy obchodnik, takze prinajhorsom skoncim na papierovom SL :D

Sefe, vdaka za odpoved-:)

Ok, vdaka za odpoved, financnika mam precitaneho a neustale sa k nemu vraciam lebo fakt dobry, myslel som skor, ze ci neni lepsie vyberat zisky kym su na stole ako odporuca Mark Douglas a to aj pri nizsich prfofit targetoch ako ich nechat rast, lebo trh moze ist aj proti mne a zisk sa tak moze aj vyrazne znizit. TNT ma tu vyhodu alebo mozno aj nevyhodu, ze nie je problem si hned overit ci by som sa dostal zo ziskom dalej alebo nie, len ma zaujimalo, ci ked si dam PT napr. na 300 mozem pocitat, ze v realnom trhu pri nom jednoducho cez pokyn brokerovi vystupim bez toho, ze by som lamentoval, ze profit mohol byt aj 1000, lebo v TNT viem pomocou par kliknuti kam by som vystupal ale v reali asi nie :)

No asi to neni lahke ale urcite stoji za to, vela stastia a nech vjyde aj to zlato :)

No takze, s tou EU som bol fakt vedla, ani sa mi to prilis nezdalo, destabilita cien, ktora sa podla tych sprav predpoklada by asi mohla trh pohnut ale kedze sa tam pise o moznom poklese cien tak by som skor cakal, ze sa trh zacne vypredavat a nie rast, aj preto som vam to poslal, lebo som bol zvedavy na nazor. Ale trocha som sa pohrabal na webe a vec sa ma jednoducho takto: Brazilia ako najvacsi producent cukru sa rozhodla , ze vrhne viac urody trstiny ako sa cakalo do vyroby bioetanolu - je to zlozka, ktora sa primiesava do benzinu a nafty (chysta sa to aj Cesku a v SR) Pre trh to ale zaroven znamena, ze najvacsi producent menej vyvezie a to sa premietlo do ceny v NY ,k tomu sa este pridali uz predtym nejake tie znicene plantaze v Amerike po poslednych fujaviciach a 5-rocne maximum je na svete. Docela zaujimave, dokonca to vyzera, ze aj dalej bude trh hybat vysoko. posielam linky www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=17553 quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aaUVOinBIE2Q odporucam si prip. zaradit do oblubenych poloziek RE: Dimi, gratulujem a tak trocha zavidim, ze uz si v realnom trhu, dufam, ze sa tam prepracujem aj ja (ak mi zostanu chechtaky po rekonstrukcii bytu :( Mozem sa ta opytat ako dlho ti trvalo kym si mal pocit, ze si pripraveny vstupit na trh? Prajem fakt vela uspechov (tu) :)

vdaka za odpoved, to je presne to co som potreboval vediet - rozdiel medzi papierom a realom moze byt aj 150 USD , ak niekedy zacnem obchodovat realne, je dobre s tym ratat, fakt dik

Zdravim, mam jednu otazku, ktora by ma zaujimala v papertradingu. Testujem v TNT jednoduchu strategiu v cukre - pomocou dvojityh MA (5 a 10) a pomaham si zmenami VOL a OI, obcas aj PSAR-om. Urobil som zatial tri sady obchodov po 20. V dvoch sadach som mal uspesnost 60 a v jednej 50 %. Aj zisky boli viacnasobne vyssie ako straty, lebo pouzivam SL na urovni 10-11 tickov. Ked som ale pouzil tuto strategiu na Corn ale aj na starsi Sugar medzi rokmi 94-96, uspech nebol az taky - pomer ziskov a strat bol v pohode, akurat zisky boli casto dost nizke a v niekorych pripadoch zasa aj 1000 USD - ak som pockal dlhsie. Zaujimalo by ma teda ci ma zmysel uz na papieri kalkulovat aj s profit targetom , vysledky by som potom mal lepsie, ale neviem ci to tak funguje aj v real. Ci si teda ak mi napriklad po vstupe do dobrej pozicie behom dvoch dni vzrastie zisk na 300 USD, mozem jednoducho povedat, ze by som tam poziciu uzavrel aj v real trhu? Funguje to tak, ze ked zadam brokerovi prikaz predt/kupit pri zisku 300 najde sa na trhu vzdy niekto (ako pisete v manuali) kto kupi/preda? Alebo je mozne, ze sa obchod neuzavrie, zostanem v pozicii dlhsie a zisk sa medzitym znizi? Ak sa pytam mimo, znesiem kritiku :)

Sorry, nemal som to v umysle poslat tri krat, ale dlho mi to nechcelo prejst, tak som skusal. Aspon je hned viac prispevkov :)

Sorrz, nemal som to v umysle poslat tri krat, ale dlho mi to nechcelo prejst, tak som skusal :D

Greenhorn, tu je co som mal na mysli: news.tradingcharts.com/futures/1/2/70790021.html

GENEVA, Sep 28, 2005 (XFN-ASIA via COMTEX) -- Australia, Brazil and Thailand clashed with the European Union at the World Trade Organisation, slamming Brussels' plans to hike sugar exports despite a ruling against subsidies. At a meeting of the WTO's Dispute Settlement Body, the three governments accused the EU of planning to flood the global market with subsidised sugar, officials said. Exports are set to rise by around 2 mln tonnes this year, to a total 7 mln tonnes, trade diplomats from the three nations told the meeting. "The impact of such a decision on the international prices and, consequently, on the income of non-subsidised producers and exporters will be significant," a Brazilian diplomat said. International prices could be slashed by an estimated 6 pct because of the move, the diplomat added. In May, the WTO backed a complaint by Australia, Brazil and Thailand, who said the EU was breaching the rules because all its sugar exports were receiving subsidies. Under WTO accords, EU aid for sugar exporters is in principle meant to cover only around 1.3 mln tonnes annually. After the May ruling, Brussels asked for a "reasonable period of time" to fall into line. A WTO arbitrator is set by Oct 28 to decide when that should expire. Australia, Brazil and Thailand said that in the meantime, the EU should have started to cut its exports, rather than raising them. But an EU trade diplomat said that the hike was tied to an increase in European sugar stocks following the bloc's expansion last year from 15 to 25 nations, plus a fall in consumption. Changes to EU sugar policies also need to work their way through the legislative system, the diplomat added.

Greenhorn, mal som na mysli zhruba toto: GENEVA, Sep 28, 2005 (XFN-ASIA via COMTEX) -- Australia, Brazil and Thailand clashed with the European Union at the World Trade Organisation, slamming Brussels' plans to hike sugar exports despite a ruling against subsidies. At a meeting of the WTO's Dispute Settlement Body, the three governments accused the EU of planning to flood the global market with subsidised sugar, officials said. Exports are set to rise by around 2 mln tonnes this year, to a total 7 mln tonnes, trade diplomats from the three nations told the meeting. "The impact of such a decision on the international prices and, consequently, on the income of non-subsidised producers and exporters will be significant," a Brazilian diplomat said. International prices could be slashed by an estimated 6 pct because of the move, the diplomat added. In May, the WTO backed a complaint by Australia, Brazil and Thailand, who said the EU was breaching the rules because all its sugar exports were receiving subsidies. Under WTO accords, EU aid for sugar exporters is in principle meant to cover only around 1.3 mln tonnes annually. After the May ruling, Brussels asked for a "reasonable period of time" to fall into line. A WTO arbitrator is set by Oct 28 to decide when that should expire. Australia, Brazil and Thailand said that in the meantime, the EU should have started to cut its exports, rather than raising them. But an EU trade diplomat said that the hike was tied to an increase in European sugar stocks following the bloc's expansion last year from 15 to 25 nations, plus a fall in consumption. Changes to EU sugar policies also need to work their way through the legislative system, the diplomat added.

Zdravim, som uplny zaciatocnik (testujem prvu jednoduchu strategiu na cukor), takze asi nikoho neprekvapim, ze som sa mylne domnieval, ze by marcovy trh mohol pomaly zacat klesat - 21.9. tomu naznacovali dvojite MA (5 a 10) a zaroven silne vzrastli VOL aj OI co mohlo (ak som dobre cital skvely manual na tomto webe) naznacovat potvrdenie trendu nadol, ale stal sa opak. Moj dotaz teda je: suvisi to s fundamentalnymi spravami o spore velkych producentov cukru s EU?